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Museum of Idolatry
20 November 2008 4:27pm
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  [ Ignore ]

A museum of idolatry

This Is What Happens When the Church Fails to Remain Faithful to the Correct Preaching and Teaching of God’s Word

Welcome to the Museum of Idolatry

The Museum of Idolatry is the worlds largest collection of idolatry. We have over 800 exhibits and we’re adding more exhibits almost daily.

If this is your first time visiting please feel free to grab a beverage and take your time wandering through the museum. This site provides a front row seat for the Great Apostasy that is sweeping through today’s “Christianity”
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I accidently found out this site on Youtube.

On the right hand side of the screen (Categories), they have quite a lot of collections.

Christianity is so divide
I guess that’s the biggest problem we face.

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Pro13:12 Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but when dreams come true,there is life and joy.

Ecc4:9 Two are better than one......10 If one falls down,his friend can help him up.But pity the man who falls and has noone to help him up!

   
20 November 2008 11:11pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]

I love the tagline under ‘Pirate Christian Radio.’

There is a similar site called Slice of Laodicea.

   
22 November 2008 8:12pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]

I don’t think Christianity is divided at all. There are just a lot of people who do a better job at faking it than your average sex worker. I believe sites like this are fantastic, they push godly people to consider the reality of heresy.

   
23 November 2008 9:06am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]

Ray,
Your comments about how far Christianity has gone in it’s divisions are true.
Thousands of different splinter sects that have sprung up definately show that we have strayed from the Biblical foundation of Jesus that we “should all be one”.
It is a reminder to all who split The Church and destroyed so much, such as King Henry VIII, that Catholicism is the true faith and that unity under one shepherd is it’s best defense.

   
23 November 2008 6:40pm
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Brent Anthony Egan - 23 November 2008 09:06 AM

It is a reminder to all who split The Church and destroyed so much, such as King Henry VIII, that Catholicism is the true faith and that unity under one shepherd is it’s best defense.

But the Church was already split wasn’t it between East and West, and the Pope didn’t help matters at the time of the Reformation by proceeding down the Council of Trent path.

Happily today there is more cooperation and recognition of one another between Catholics and Protestants as even the current Pope is “sola fide” according to a report being celebrated on another thread.

Welcome to the fold Catholics!

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23 November 2008 7:02pm
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David Palmer - 23 November 2008 06:40 PM

Welcome to the fold Catholics!

As I explained in the relevant thread, this is certainly no departure from what Rome has always taught. The understanding that it is occurs only when the context and language of Trent is neglected.

Truth be known, I suspect that within the next 50 years most of Protestantism will return to Rome. The small minority who do not will be regarded as outside of the bounds of recognised orthodoxy and will be regarded very much like the Latter Day Saints and the Jehovah’s Witnesses are today.

   
23 November 2008 7:39pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]

I think you’d find that Protestantism will only return to Rome if Rome completely dumps the past 500 years and they just can’t do that because of ecclesiastic law. There are too many heresies lurking amongst the orthodox doctrines of Roman Catholicism for most to just ignore it.

If anything, the emergant church will make even easier for “nonRCs” to turn away, when everyone can decide to ignore whatever they like.

   
23 November 2008 8:02pm
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There has only ever been one true church of Jesus Christ.  It is not an earthly organisation such as a denomination. It is the full number of those who have genuine faith in Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord.  It includes those already in heaven, as well as all those still living on earth.  There is one body and one Spirit-- just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.  The members are scattered throughout the world in many denominations, some in no denomination. Only God knows who they all are. They are united in peace with God through Jesus, who is our peace, by his atoning death, which destroyed the hostility.  Paul explains all this in Ephesians 1-3.

The challenge is to live in unity, which Paul addresses in Ephesians 4-6. This is a unity of love and truth, not a bland uniformity of one earthly organisation/denomination. Unity in earthly relationsships is hindered by false ideas and ungodly living.  Pride is behind most problems, and any denomination which thinks it is the one true church is guilty of that.

Paul mourns divisions based on particular humans in 1 Corinthians 1-4. 

One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
1CO 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?

The unifying factor is Christ, not any of his followers. Not Peter, or his supposed successors, or any other human organisation/denomination.

Fix your eyes on Jesus, and then we will all be looking in the same direction. He sees us in the Spirit as always, already, and ever, one flock, one vine, one bride, one body of which he is the head.  There are no denominational divisions once we get to heaven. Then we shall all know the one truth fully, in perfect unity and love forever.

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23 November 2008 8:03pm
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Leigh Hardwick - 23 November 2008 07:39 PM

I think you’d find that Protestantism will only return to Rome if Rome completely dumps the past 500 years and they just can’t do that because of ecclesiastic law. There are too many heresies lurking amongst the orthodox doctrines of Roman Catholicism for most to just ignore it.

Well, that would be one way, but I’m talking about Protestants returning to the Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church, not a Church that “dumps the past 500 years”. And mark my words most will do so. There will always be little sects that choose to go another way, but as I said, these churches will be regarded as outside the bounds of orthodoxy.

   
23 November 2008 9:00pm
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Frank Savage - 23 November 2008 08:02 PM

There has only ever been one true church of Jesus Christ.  It is not an earthly organisation such as a denomination. It is the full number of those who have genuine faith in Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord.  It includes those already in heaven, as well as all those still living on earth.  There is one body and one Spirit-- just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.  The members are scattered throughout the world in many denominations, some in no denomination. Only God knows who they all are. They are united in peace with God through Jesus, who is our peace, by his atoning death, which destroyed the hostility.  Paul explains all this in Ephesians 1-3.

The challenge is to live in unity, which Paul addresses in Ephesians 4-6. This is a unity of love and truth, not a bland uniformity of one earthly organisation/denomination. Unity in earthly relationsships is hindered by false ideas and ungodly living.  Pride is behind most problems, and any denomination which thinks it is the one true church is guilty of that.

Paul mourns divisions based on particular humans in 1 Corinthians 1-4. 

One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
1CO 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?

The unifying factor is Christ, not any of his followers. Not Peter, or his supposed successors, or any other human organisation/denomination.

Fix your eyes on Jesus, and then we will all be looking in the same direction. He sees us in the Spirit as always, already, and ever, one flock, one vine, one bride, one body of which he is the head.  There are no denominational divisions once we get to heaven. Then we shall all know the one truth fully, in perfect unity and love forever.

Well said Frank. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. I’m sure it saddens God when people put their trust in human organisation (of whatever flavour) rather than in his son Jesus.

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23 November 2008 9:11pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]

Thanks Derek.  Yes, and I think another definition of the true church is in Philippians 3
3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh-- 4 though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

this is again looking away from earthly trappings to God and Christ.  our boast and glory is only in Jesus and his cross.

All true believers are already enthroned, seated, with Christ in the heavenly realm.  only one place and one group there!

Cheers

Frank

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23 November 2008 10:32pm
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Frank Savage - 23 November 2008 09:11 PM

Thanks Derek.  Yes, and I think another definition of the true church is in Philippians 3
3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh-- 4 though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

this is again looking away from earthly trappings to God and Christ.  our boast and glory is only in Jesus and his cross.

All true believers are already enthroned, seated, with Christ in the heavenly realm.  only one place and one group there!

Cheers

Frank

Well said Frank,

Spoken like a true Presbyterian!

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Courtesy John Calvin

   
23 November 2008 11:14pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]

The Church is never split...as this would mean the gates of Hell had prevailed against it. Individuals and groups have left the Church, as did the Nestorians, non-Chalcedonians, Eastern Orthodox, Waldensians , Hussites, Lutherans , Calvinists , Anglicans etc.

In the Catholic Church we pray for the restoration of the unity of all Christian people and not that of the Church. The mark of unity is one of the marks of the Church, and it would be impossible for the grat High priestly prayer of Jthe Lord Jesus Christ to fail, that all would be one.

The Church is a visible community, a light which cannot be hid..teaching that same truth that it first proclaimed at Pentecost, in unbroken continuity.

   
24 November 2008 8:22am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]

Robert, according to Jesus, the true “Church” is the same group of people as all (true) “Christian people”. 
Romans Catholics imagine they are the only true church.  This thinking is their own invention, and is not in the Bible. 
The gates of hell shall never prevail against the true Church, which is the community in heaven and on earth of all those who recognize that Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God, as Peter did. All true Christians, of many denominations or none, share that confession.

You are saying I am not in the Church, because I am not a Roman Catholic. I am glad that God’s definition of the word “church” is not the same as the Roman Catholic one.

I will stay with God’s definition, and feel sorry for you, because of the confusion (and pride in man, rather than in Christ and his cross?) that your misconception has led you to.

Truth in love

Frank

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24 November 2008 8:35am
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Hi David. 

Thanks for your comment. I would rather identify myself as a true Christian (by God’s grace), who is also a member (for now, by God’s direction, ) of the earthly denomination called Presbyterian.

And actually the way I have defined the church is the same as taught by the Anglican Broughton Knox, when I was in Moore College.  It is also well summarized in an appendix in Bishop Lightfoot’s old commentary on Philippians. (I am not sure that a high church Anglican would agree with it.)

I know we agree that God’s Word in the Bible is the only measure of truth.

Peace and love

Frank

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24 November 2008 8:52am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]

Frank..you have bought the line that the Church is invisible and denominations are man-made creations. Not so with the Catholic Church....which is the city set upon the hill...the mountain of the Lords house , unto which all nations shall flow, Kept in unity by the successor of him, who was commissoned by the Saviour to feed both sheep and lambs, and confirm the brethren with an unfailing faith...not to mention hold the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.

   
   
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